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REBELUTION: Promo for the Upcoming Conference……and thoughts on what it means to be a RADICAL YOUTH 4 CHRIST!!!!!!

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on February 15, 2008

 Just placing out some promo-videos (as well as some recaps) from Last Year on the “REBELUTION”……..(and for those of you out there claiming that youths couldn’t GET IT RIGHT, HERE IT IS RIGHT HERE 4 YA TO RECONSIDER…….)

 For more detailed info,

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebelution

The Rebelution is a Christian ministry organization directed at youth, defined as “a teenage rebellion against low expectations.” It was founded in August 2005 by 19-year-old twin brothers Alex and Brett Harris, younger brothers of best-selling author and pastor, Joshua Harris. Originally just a blog, the Rebelution movement has since grown to include a full website and international speaking tour.[1]

Since its launch in August 2005 the Rebelution website has received over 14 million hits, with members around the world.[2]

The Rebelution Tour, a series of one-day conferences for teens and parents, was held in the cities of Sacramento, Denver, Dallas, Indianapolis, and internationally, in Tokyo, in 2007, reaching over 5,100 teens and parents, with additional conferences scheduled for 2008.[3]

In April 2008, Alex and Brett’s first book Do Hard Things: A Teenage Rebellion Against Low Expectations will be published by WaterBrook Multnomah, a division of Random House.[4]

Gotta love my generation…….

Acts 2:16-18

16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
 17” ‘In the last days, God says,
      I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
   Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
      your young men will see visions,
      your old men will dream dreams.
 18Even on my servants, both men and women,
      I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
      and they will prophesy.

 Another brother in the Lord wrote a post on the issue that I thought would be interesting for everyone to investigate:

http://fruitfulmusings.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/the-rebelution-1-timothy-412/

And for anyone wishing more information, go here:

Do Hard Things book

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Now, of course, there are many watching this who may be wondering “But man, they’re so young!!!How are they QUALIFIED to do anything productive for the Body of Christ?!!!”…

Moreover, many may have images come to mind of how there were often times when people placed youths in places of authority and it ended up messy. For examples of this, these are some of the videos that have been brought to my attention before:

Now, Perhaps I’m off for this……but in watching the video with that child preacher, I’m finding myself upset for different reasons beside the “pimp game”……specifically, in the sense that it’s situations/the abuses of people such as that which can make it bad for other children and YOUTHS who are truly sold out for the Lord (and IMHO, it’s very possible)

Then again, there are examples in Scripture of where even young people had godly influence over those older than they. King Josiah immediately comes to my mind, for the kid was eight years old when he began influencing people toward serving the Lord ( II Chronicles 34-35). Even at his young age, he showed greater wisdom than many of the older kings that came before him because he had decided to seek the Lord and His wisdom………

And if boys back then were considered men at age 12 & expected to know the responsibilities men were supposed to carry, that says something to me of what the standard should be today if we think young people are out of line for knowing/alerting others as to what God’s standards are.

By no means do I mean the kid in the video is in the clear……for NT Standards do not condone children holding positions of leadership in the church (I Timothy 3, Titus 1:5-9):

Quote:
I Timothy 3Overseers and Deacons 1Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer,[a] he desires a noble task. 2Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. 5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap. 8Deacons, likewise, are to be men worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.11In the same way, their wives[b] are to be women worthy of respect, not malicious talkers but temperate and trustworthy in everything.

12A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well. 13Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

Quote:
Titus 1:5-95The reason I left you in Crete was that you might straighten out what was left unfinished and appoint[a] elders in every town, as I directed you. 6An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7Since an overseer[b] is entrusted with God’s work, he must be blameless—not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain. 8Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. 9He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.

However, being a Youth/Child Worker myself (as well as being exposed to the Lord at young age & seeing others in the same), I cannot tell you the amount of times I’ve witnessed the young seeking to tell it like it is & it edified people—especially when they were speaking based on what older/wiser individuals had instructed them in & the information was rooted on the Word of God.

Quote:
Ecclesiastes 4:13
13 Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning.

Can’t help but feel sorry for the child in the video, for he was exposed to the wrong way in which ministry should take place…….& as a result, came to believe that his experience was the standard for what the Christian Faith was all about…….& honestly, if I had his experience, I’d probably walk away too. It’s not the REAL DEAL, & who wants a COUNTERFEIT????

Again, to be clear, it it has often been the case that people have seen the EXTREME Abuses that have happened with people such as Marjoe & ended up saying that there’s NEVER A TIME when children have worthwile things to say or that they cannot live godly lives/speak of the truth.

A child doesn’t have to be in church leadership in order to say “Mommy, what you’re doing isn’t in line with what Jesus/The Bible said….” when that parent or adult is doing something clearly in the wrong….or in leadership when there’s talk of a popular movie, for example, which everyone saw but had content that was against God’s Standards, or in leadership in order to pray for someone/alert them to Scriptural truth.

Quote:
Ecclesiastes 4:13
13 Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning.

Of course I’m not advocating that we put children in the pulpit & have them preach/teach. That’s dangerous, both for the congregation AND THE WELFARE OF THE CHILD, who may be assuming a position he or she is neither qualified to handle OR stay sane…..but where I’m coming from is that neither or they precluded from simply being able to share truth. Wisdom is Wisdom, regardless of age………

Also, provided that there’s the GODLY INFLUENCE OF MALE ELDERS/LEADERSHIP overseeing everything, it should be all good.
Working with young boys myself, when in the classroom, I’m always mindful of the fact that I’m raising boys to become MEN…….& part of being a man is knowing what the TRUTH OF GOD’S WORD SAYS, being able to share that with others/live it out regardless of the circumstances. …..& knowing how to demonsrate servant leadership as Jesus did (John 13).

Should I ever say something or do something’s that out of line with the TRUTH that’s been taught, I expect them to call me out on it……

Sadly, THIS IS NOT THE CASE. Had an issue of this recently where I tried to check some individuals in how they went about things when it seemed that they were not in line with the Word of God. One of the responses I recieved that bothered me was this (and for more info so one can see the ENTIRE DIALOUGE, go here: http://www.christiandiscussionforums.org/v/showthread.php?t=93766,         #16:

Personally, I think you are making yourself into something your not, a teacher of your elders, and you are taking some of these things way to seriously.

In any case, does anyone remember this?

Quote:
1 Peter 5To Elders and Young Men 1To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder, a witness of Christ’s sufferings and one who also will share in the glory to be revealed: 2Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, serving as overseers—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve; 3not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. 4And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.

5Young men, in the same way be submissive to those who are older. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because,
“God opposes the proud
but gives grace to the humble.”[

     Elders are church officers who provide supervision, protection, discipline, instruction,and direction for other believers. They cared for God’s flock, led by EXAMPLE, and had a heart to serve above all else as the Lord did—with authority being based on humble service and not mere knowledge (Mark 10:42-45, John 21:15-17). Though elder simply meant older, it was not something SOLEY akin to PHYSICAL AGE….but of maturity in the Spirit as well.That said, I am PERSONALLY GLAD that I have people like this in my life (both online and elsewhere at my church/youthgroup….go here, for example: http://mymiscellanies.blogspot.com/2…tism-with.html) who have greatly impacted me & who demonstrate their wisdom in deeds done in HUMILITY (James 3:12-18) & who demonstrate the characteristics called of those who are in leadership in the church that I’ve been seeking to address (i.e. I Timothy 3:1-10, Titus 1:6-9). Moreover, I am glad for the experiences I’ve had since they’ve greatly taught me the importance of realizing that—whether young or old–ALL CAN LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER.

Both young & old can benefit from Peter’s instructions. Pride often keeps older people from trying to understand young people and keeps older young people from listening to those who are older. Peter told both young and old to be HUMBLE and to serve one another in love. Young men men should follow the leadership of older men, who should lead by EXAMPLE/remaining true to the Word–and only as far as they remain obediant to the examples of the Word. Respect those who are older than you, listen to those younger than you….and be humble enough to admit you can learn from each other…..for GOD’s watching.

It amazes me to see how often people equate wisdom automatically with age. If you’re older, then you automatically have a right to ignore/shut down someone who is younger……..and somehow you qualify for the role of leading them…OR THAT IF YOU DON’T CARRY SOME SORT OF CHURCH TITLE (i.e. pastor, teacher, deacon, etc), you have nothing to offer. Howvever, IMHO, I’ve met many folk who grew old and yet never GREW UP……

Moreover, even in light of the guidelines given for deacons/leaders in the church,  all believers should strive to follow these guidelines because it is consistent with what God says is true and right. I’m a youth deacon/intern at my church..have had PLENTY OF EXPERIENCE in ministry practically as well as learning from those who’ve been in it longer than many here…but even I realize that Just because some may never teach/lead formally does not imply that they are not effectively able to teach. Paul described this kind of intimate teaching in II Timothy 2:2:

Quote:
II Timothy 2:22And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.

Moreover, IF YOU’re thinking youth is an issue, deal with I Timothy 4:11-16. He was a young pastor, but age wasn’t an issue with God. He set an example in his speech, life, and love faith and purity……(I Timothy 4). That has been my goal from the get-go……for regardless of age, GOD’S WORD IS THE FINAL STANDARD….AND if we’re doing something the Bible says we’re not to do, I think my bible overrides others. Doesn’t matter how long one has been doing something either, for length of time doesn’t mean you’ve been doing it RIGHT.

Quote:
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Ecclesiastes 4:13
[ Advancement Is Meaningless ] Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning

Apart from that, it’s all good. Blessings, Brah

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