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RELATIONSHIP/LOVE: The Missing FACTOR REGARDING ADRESSING MATTERS OF FAITH/DOCTRINE (Part 1)

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on November 9, 2007

Sarcasm from Greek óáñêáóìüò (sarkasmos), ‘mockery, sarcasm’ is sneering, jesting, or mocking at a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound[1] — stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using “that’s fantastic” to mean “that’s awful”. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm )

I recently was checking out discussions and, seeing how many throughout the CARM forums (www.carm.org ) seem to be adept at being highly mocking/sarcastic (and sometimes, sharply so) whenever discussing their views or supposedly correcting what may be error. Along the way, I noticed the words of a phenomenal gentlemen who raised up some points that really struck me. He said, :Quote:

What would Christ have us do? Deride and mock those who disagree with us, or teach and correct through discussion and debate? It seems to me the latter.Even Paul, when he entered the Areopagus, did not mock the pagans who believed in false gods, but rather, he used their beliefs as an opportunity to teach them the truth.Even sharp rebuke does not need to embody derision or mockery. It can be simple and direct. How, then, should we act? Can such behavior be exemplified by those here who claim the name of Christ?

Personally, I agreed with his statements…..and I share the sentiments of many others who feel the same. As another individual said regarding the situation,Quote:

It would make such a huge difference if we who name of the name of Christ could discuss the issues (and Scripture) without condescension and mockery and insults to other posters.Rebuke does not equal hate or attack.Prov 27:5
Better is open rebuke
than hidden love.

However, Though many agreed with his statements, another raised up some points in rebuttal. He said,Quote:

Being “sarcastic” or mocking” is not necessarily a sin. In fact one of the most “sarcastic” people in the bible was the Apostle Paul. A good example is found at Galatians 5:12. “Would those who are troubling you would even multilate themselves.” The issue at hand is that the Judiazers were teaching that circumcision was absolutely necessary for salvation. The Jews seemingly thought that Paul was stressing the importance of circumcision (which he was not) because of what he says in verse 11.***Paul stated in verse 10 not to adopt any other view and then states in verse 12 (parapharsing) “were even cut off–even as they desire your foreskin to be cut off and cast away by circumcision, so would that they were even cut off from communion, being worthless as a castaway forskin. Would that they would even cut themselves off, that is, cut off not merely the foreskin, but the whole member; if circumcision be not enough for them, then let them have excision also. As a side note there are various views regarding Galatians 5:12 but I personally agree with this one…… , I can give you another example of Paul being sarcastic and I also recall how Elijah in the OT mocked the baal worshippers 1 Kings 18.

Now, though I agree with this individual on the fact that Paul did use sarcasm often as a way of illustrating things….g…..but this individual went on to say something that highly troubled me:Quote:

Now, like I stated there is nothing wrong with being sarcastic or even mocking. The important thing is the persons motive or intent of the heart. I always say, “what I say about a person and how I feel about them are two different things.”

To me, that seemed to give the impression that all that matters when it comes to sarcasm is your heart’s intent……and that it shouldn’t bother people if you mean well. Moreover, it bothered me to hear the statement that one’s words/thoughts of another don’t equal each other since often what you say about someone indicates your view of them (ex. If you’re constantly making fun of someone or speakin down to them/ignoring anything they say of worth……

or if you’re constantly responding in a prideful manner, that tends to give the impression that you don’t have a really high view of them, for you’re not speaking in ways that would build them up and actually show you want to help them!!).That all said, I think context is everything when it comes to understanding how a form of expression was used, as where as when.

Remember, Paul didn’t write paragraphs……but rather he wrote LETTERS.

This is important because often times people will read with a “paragraph” meantality, where they’ll go to one section in an epistle in order to deal with a situation but forget that the instructions given in that paragraph were done alongside OTHERS, before & after. If one were to isolate that without understanding THE OVERALL CONTEXT OF THINGS, then they run the risk of either misrepresenting or damaging what Paul or others were originally about. ……and they may end up doing some valid things but forgetting the other things just as valid that took place alongside that, leaving things INCOMPLETE.

Perhaps it’s just me, but I wonder how much the issue of RELATIONSHIP played into the fact of Paul’s sarcasm with those he knew.

 For more info, please consider investigating this:

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1352

It seems that whenever he employed sarcasm, the environment wasn’t one such as this one, where all of us can essentially say something but still not have others know anything about us or be significantly involved in the lives of each other. It be one thing if a man came into my life, spoke sarcastically or started rebukking/mocking me out of nowhere, and I had no idea where this man came from or what his character was really like and if he had any real idea of who I was.

However, having an investment made by the man and a relationship where there was previously a love connection would make it easier for me to accept sarcasm from the man when it happens, for I understand the man’s heart and know EXACTLY where he’s coming from……and he has gotten to that level with me, especially after I have been priveliged to see his walk in action for what it is.Likewise, Paul didn’y come out of nowhere whenever he employed sarcasm/mocking and acted like there should be no problem with those who heard of it.

In many of the churches (if not all) that he was involved in, he was like a father to them………For example, Even when Paul was being heavily sarcastic/at times sharp with the Corinthians, it seems again that there was that aspect of RELATIONSHIP there first……

1 Corinthians 4:14-16

14I am not writing this to shame you, but to warn you, as my dear children. 15Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16Therefore I urge you to imitate me.

This is a verse that was spoken within the context of Paul visiting the Corinthians & giving CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM regarding much of the mess that was taking place within the church. It must be noted that many people will read the book of I Corinthians and IMMEDIATELY FOCUS ON ALL OF THE WAYS THAT PAUL CRITICIZED THEM FOR THEIR SINS, concluding that is ALL WE’RE REQUIRED TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH ISSUES OF DOCTRINE/FOUL PRACTIVE……& if encouraged to be more edifying, guess what they’ll say?

‘”Paul was Sarcastc & kept it REAL. That’s what I’m doing. Calling it out as I SEE IT”

Or…

If you condemn me for being abrasive/gruff, you CONDEMN PAUL AND THE OTHER APOSTLES, who were alot more rough than I AM!!!!”

The List goes on……but hopefully, you get the point.

However, there are some things that should be noted:

One, before any sarcasm/criticism or dealing with ANY ISSUES BEGAN, Paul alerted them to how THANKFUL HE WAS FOR THEM, loving on them & ENCOURAGING THEM IN THE LORD. Moreover, before tackling the PROBLEMS, Paul DESCRIBED HIS HOPE FOR THE CORINTHIANS. He guaranteed these believers that God would consider them “blameless” when Christ Returns, and DIRECTED THEM TOWARD THE WORK THAT THE LORD HAD ACCOMPLISHED FOR THEM THROUGH HIS DEATH/RESSURECTION:

1 Corinthians 1:4-9

Thanksgiving

4I always thank God for you because of his grace given you in Christ Jesus. 5For in him you have been enriched in every way—in all your speaking and in all your knowledge— 6because our testimony about Christ was confirmed in you. 7Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. 8He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.

This is something NOT MANY ARE WILLING TO REMEMBER when it comes to CORRECTION, for how often do you witness people presume the role of GOD’S “POLICE MAN”, rushing in to ROUGH UP EVERYONE/EVERYTHING THEY DEEM OUT OF ORDER, yet never taking the time to express their gratitude to the ones recieving correction….whether it be in affirming God’s working in their lives, or encouraging them where they may be discouraged….or TAKING NOTE of the struggles/difficulties & failures they may be dealing with and letting them KNOW THAT THEY ARE VALUED!!!!!! And that EVEN WHEN THEY’RE WEAK, CHRIST WILL SAVE THE DAY!!!!

We can NEVER SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH, whether to PARENTS, FRIENDS, LEADERS, & ESPECIALLY GOD……AND moreover, we shoud never belittle how crucial it is that we’d be ENCOURAGING TO OTHERS.

Proverbs 15:13
A happy heart makes the face cheerful, but heartache crushes the spirit.

Proverbs 15:30
A cheerful look brings joy to the heart, and good news gives health to the bones.

Just like with saliva needed to break/digest food down, how important is the role/of enthusiasm/encouragement is in church……So often, people will expound on a sermon and lay into someone for something they’ve done wrong and simply expect their audience to receive it ………yet they fail to realize the difficulty of doing so when their spirits may possibly be too crushed with things/pressures to bear any thing else…….

They fail to see how enthusiasm can help prepare the way…….How like pain-medicine, enthusiasm (i.e. greeting with welcome, or giving a word of encouragement, or maintaining a positive outlook on life, getting excited, etc) is needed to help heal/medicate (Proverbs 16:24, Proverbs 17:30), making people ready to receive the Truth………

As another once said wisely on the issue (from Bible.org),

Gentle words. We mentioned gentle words when we discussed how to deal with the faults of others (chapter 3). But their importance demands some further emphasis. Solomon wrote, “A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger” (Proverbs 15:1). The word gentle implies words that are tender, delicate and mild. Paul said much the same thing: “And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you” (Ephesians 4:32).

The same tongue that stirs up strife also can communicate kindness, tender-heartedness and forgiveness when it is controlled by the Holy Spirit. Gentle words can soothe and quiet the atmosphere after foolish words have been uttered. When passions rage, accusations are made or unkindnesses hurled, try gentle words. Purposely speak in calm, quiet, kind tones, and choose words that are non-threatening and non-retaliatory. It will be like pouring cold water on burning coals. It takes two to fight. If one decides there is a better way and refuses to retaliate, there will be no fight.

Understanding words. If we are only to speak words that build others up according to their needs, then we obviously must understand those needs. That may require some prayerful thought before we open our mouths. Many of us would rather spew out the first thing that comes to our minds when we are issued an invitation to fight. Solomon has some choice observations about that:

“Do you see a man who is hasty in his words? There is more hope for a fool than for him” (Proverbs 29:20).
“The heart of the righteous ponders how to answer, But the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things” (Proverbs 15:28).

Part of that prayerful thought will be an effort to determine exactly what the other person is feeling and trying to communicate to us. They may be saying it rather poorly, but there is probably some need behind it. “You never listen to me” translates into something like, “I don’t think you are listening to me attentatively enough to make me feel loved and understood. And I’m hurting because of it.”

It is unfortunate that we cannot phrase things more carefully and simply say what we feel and what we want, instead of accusing, criticizing, manipulating, exaggerating, belittling, nagging or judging motives. But we all have the problem to some degree, and that should help us try to be more patient with others when they are not communicating properly, and help us try to grasp what is behind their words.

Then we can respond with understanding words rather than vengeful words. An understanding response might be, “You may be right. I probably don’t listen to you as carefully as I should. And I can understand why that bothers you. It would bother me, too. I really want to do better. Can you suggest some ideas that would help me improve in this area.”

Do you see what you have done? You have assured her that you understand why she is disturbed. You have given her an opportunity to say more about it, which she probably wanted to do and needed to do. You have let her know you are interested in making the changes in your life that will bring her greater happiness.

And you have focused on a solution, getting the discussion out of the fruitless realm of blame. That kind of answer will help build her up, meet her needs and benefit her. It is kind, tender-hearted and forgiving. And what has it cost you besides giving up a clever, smart-alecky remark that wasn’t true in the first place? Understanding words build up and encourage.

Appreciative words. The Apostle Paul himself gave us an example of words that edify and benefit. In many of his letters he included words of commendation and appreciation. For example, to the Philippians he wrote, “I thank my God in all my remembrance of you, always offering prayer with joy in my every prayer for you all, in view of your participation in the gospel from the first day until now” (Philippians 1:3-5).

To the Thessalonians he wrote, “We give thanks to God always for all of you, making mention of you in our prayers; constantly bearing in mind your work of faith and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the presence of our God and Father” (1 Thessalonians 1:2-3).

Neither the Philippians nor the Thessalonians were perfect, but Paul praised them before he dealt with their problems. There isn’t one of us who is so confident and self-assured that he does not need a word of praise periodically. Without it, we become overwhelmed with self-doubts and are incapable of functioning at peak efficiency.

Some of us seem to think that people will get proud if we compliment them too frequently. Quite the contrary! People often become boastful when they are starved for appreciation. A sincere compliment will encourage them to do even better.

Alan McGinnis relates a study of a second grade class in Wisconsin. The children were getting harder to control, standing up and roaming around the room instead of doing their work. Two psychologists spent several days in the back of the room observing. They found that seven times in every twenty-minute period the teacher said, “Sit down!” But the roaming continued. They suggested that she increase her commands, and she did, to 27.5 times in twenty minutes.

The walking around increased fifty percent. Then they suggested instead that she eliminate the commands entirely and quietly compliment the children who were staying in their seats doing their work. The roaming around decreased thirty-three percent from what it was originally.7
Psychologists tell us that, generally speaking, we need at least four positive statements to balance one word of criticism. Delinquent children report getting approximately one to one.

Most of us are the same way. We enjoy cooperating with those who show us appreciation and we resist those who criticize us. It would make a significant improvement in the way we get along with the people we live with and work with if we looked for the positive things in their lives and expressed our appreciation. A husband can say, “That was a great meal.

Thanks for the time and effort you put into it.” A Sunday school superintendent may say to a teacher, “Thanks for your faithfulness to the class. I always know that you’re going to be here unless you’ve notified me ahead of time.” Statements like that communicate an important message. They say, “I care about you. You’re important to me. I value you highly.” They are constructive words that encourage and build.

This is not the false flattery which some people use to get their own way or obtain some favor in return. The Scripture warns about that: “A flattering mouth works ruin” (Proverbs 26:28).

But it encourages people when we sincerely commend the praiseworthy things we see in them. Train yourself to look for them in the people around you—the checkout clerk at the grocery store, the difficult neighbor, the usher at church, your spouse, your children, your parents, your employees, your boss—everyone!

Let’s take the Word of God seriously and begin to weigh our words. Weed out those that damage people and cause relationships to decay. Replace them with words that build up, meet needs, and minister gracious benefit to people’s lives. We will be the beneficiaries in the end as we experience the joy of harmonious relationships.

Another thing to keep in mind: After Paul encouraged/thanked them, notice that he appealed to a sense of “family”:

1 Corinthians 1:10-17

Divisions in the Church

10I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[a]“; still another, “I follow Christ.” 13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into[b] the name of Paul? 14I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. 16(Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power

By saying “brothers”, Paul emphasized that all Christians were apart of God’s FAMILY……and keeping that in mind makes a BIG DIFFERENCE when dealing with PROBLEMS.

Like a frustrated coach watching his team bicker on the court, Paul called for a time out. He recognized the danger of divisions and arguments, but he also realized that trying to deal with the issue would be FRUITLESS if there wasn’t any emphasis on staying focused on our coach Jesus, the purpose HE HAS FOR US, and moreover……..ALERTING THEM TO THE REALITY that they were a TEAM. It wasn’t simply an issue of DOCTRINE that was the problem, but one also of SEEING THEMSELVES AS A UNIT for the problems weren’t so much differences as they were allegiances divided. They were more concerned with what position they had that it made no difference how much one person was skilled/on point or not. They were on the field but out of the game………

Another thing to consider is that inbetween Paul correcting the Corinthians with HEAVY SARCASM (I Corinthians 4:8-13 ), NOTICE HOW HE APPEALED TO THEM ON THE BASIS OF ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP:

1 Corinthians 4:14-21

14I am not writing this to shame you, but to warn you, as my dear children. 15Even though you have ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel. 16Therefore I urge you to imitate me. 17For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

18Some of you have become arrogant, as if I were not coming to you. 19But I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. 20For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. 21What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with a whip, or in love and with a gentle spirit?

In Paul’s Day, a guardian was a slave who was assigned as a special tutor and caretaker of a child. And regarding Paul’s imagery, he was portraying his special affection for the Corinthians (greater than a slave) and his special role (more than a caretaker). And even though the church was messed up/in need of heavy sarcasm/sharp words or mocking to a degree, none of those things were done without Paul appealing to his relationship with them.

By father he meant he was the churche’s founder…..and because of his willingness to take on/prove himself worthy of that FATHER role first in taking them under his wing, training them/investing in their lives rather than abandoning/manipulating them, as many people would’ve easily done,……

He could be trusted to have the Corinthians best interests at heart, thereby making it apparent that his tough words were motivated by LOVE—just like the love a good father has for his children—- rather than giving the impression that he was arrogant, smug and just being sarcastic/choosing tough words for the sake of it.

The same thing seems to be apparent in his second letter to the Corinthians, in which Paul responded to some attacks on his character & authority…….and displays him going into pain-staking detail to show how honest/straightfoward he was with them…….but later explains to them his heart.

For, unlike how it is for many others, he did not ENJOY REPRIMANDING HIS FRIENDS/FELLOW BELIEVERS…..AND MADE IT ABSOLUTELTY CLEAR THAT HE MOTIVES WERE TRULY OUT OF LOVE/CONSIDERATION FOR THEIR WELL-BEING:

2 Corinthians 2

1So I made up my mind that I would not make another painful visit to you. 2For if I grieve you, who is left to make me glad but you whom I have grieved? 3I wrote as I did so that when I came I should not be distressed by those who ought to make me rejoice. I had confidence in all of you, that you would all share my joy. 4For I wrote you out of great distress and anguish of heart and with many tears, not to grieve you but to let you know the depth of my love for you.

The same could be said of Paul’s interactions with the Thessalonians. For though they seemed to be less trouble than the Corinthians, Paul still had ESTABLISHED/CLOSE relationship with them….and he sought to encourage/comfort and build them up first for the Lord before any hard words (if any) took place, alerting them constantly to the value he placed on his RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM & how concerned he was for their well-being………but if that’s a bit of a stretch, I could be wrong of course:

1 Thessalonians 2:3-9

3For the appeal we make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor are we trying to trick you. 4On the contrary, we speak as men approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel. We are not trying to please men but God, who tests our hearts. 5You know we never used flattery, nor did we put on a mask to cover up greed—God is our witness. 6We were not looking for praise from men, not from you or anyone else.

As apostles of Christ we could have been a burden to you, 7but we were gentle among you, like a mother caring for her little children. 8We loved you so much that we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well, because you had become so dear to us. 9Surely you remember, brothers, our toil and hardship; we worked night and day in order not to be a burden to anyone while we preached the gospel of God to you.

1 Thessalonians 2:10-12

10You are witnesses, and so is God, of how holy, righteous and blameless we were among you who believed. 11For you know that we dealt with each of you as a father deals with his own children, 12encouraging, comforting and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory.

Either way, every church Paul was at, it seems He was actively invloved in their lives, and prior to that had been very compassionate/loving toward the,, so if he was sarcastic, it would’nt of been that big of a deal.  Also, it may’ve been easier to accept for them……and I think the problem with sarcasm/sharpness and mocking is that many are comfortable simply using it continuously and PRIMARILY toward others while never addressing the love/relationship aspect first.

And let’s face it: HOW MANY OF US REALLY KNOW EACH OTHER PERSONALLY OFF LINE THIS SITE?

As the OLD Proverb goes,

Proverbs 27:6
Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses

Obvious is the fact that a true friend will have to give unpleasant advice at times, and of course they know it’s for the others’s good. They don’t just tell you what you wish to hear, for that’s what enemies do. An enemy will whisper sweet words 24/7 AND HAPPILY send you on your way to ruin……and the fact of the matter is that we all tend to pay heed to what we wish to hear at times…..even if an ENEMY is the only one who’ll say it….and a friend’s advice, no matter how painful, is much more valuable

Psalm 141:5
Let a righteous man strike me—it is a kindness; let him rebuke me—it is oil on my head. My head will not refuse it. Yet my prayer is ever against the deeds of evildoers;

Proverbs 25:12
Like an earring of gold or an ornament of fine gold is a wise man’s rebuke to a listening ear.

Proverbs 27:5
Better is open rebuke than hidden love.

Proverbs 28:23
He who rebukes a man will in the end gain more favor than he who has a flattering tongue.

Proverbs 26:28
A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.

Proverbs 29:5
Whoever flatters his neighbor is spreading a net for his feet

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Going back to the original verse in Proverbs, however, Please notice that wounds in themselves are not what’s trusted……but rather those from a FRIEND!!! And what is a friend? By definition: “One attached to another by AFFECTION or ESTEEM….FAVORED COMPANION.

In other words, SOMEONE WHO YOU ARE INTIMATELY CONNECTED WITH, WHO HAS EARNED YOUR TRUST/RESPECT, & WHO SINCERLY WANTS THE BEST FOR REGARDLESS……not STRANGERS DEMANDING TO BE HEARD/SPEAK INTO YOUR LIFE WHEN THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOUR ISSUES, AND WHO HAVE YET TO PROVE THEIR VALOR/WORTH!!!!

And how often are many of us seemingly bent moreso on mocking/being sarcastic than speaking positively into each other’s lives or in ways that we could all be edified…..with what seems to be no personal regard to what’s taking place in the individual lives of those behind the keyboard or how we can either pray/lift them up and let them know not only of our compassion but verify that we honestly have their best interests at heart?

Ephesians 4:29

29Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, t hat it may benefit those who listen.

And, on a side note, If our language was measured by wise principles, how many of us could hoestly say that we measure up to Wisdom’s standard when it comes to speaking to each other? Would we be cool on any of the following, for example:

Proverbs 16:21
21 The wise in heart are called discerning,
and pleasant words promote instruction.

[a]Proverbs 11:12
12 A man who lacks judgment derides his neighbor,
but a man of understanding holds his tongue.

Proverbs 17:14
14 Starting a quarrel is like breaching a dam;
so drop the matter before a dispute breaks out.

And, of course, for those who continously claim that sarcasm is not only permissible but seem to justify it as the norm when interacting with those who may oppose them, does anyone still take this scripture seriously?

2 Timothy 2:23-26

23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they wil l come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

For the sake of reference, go http://www.raystedman.org/timothy/3788.html for better phrasing on my mentality/heart’s desire on how we as Christians are to handle Controversy)Of course, that’s just my opinion. But I could be wrong……

To note, I’m not one for the mentality that we should be politically correct all the times by the world’s definition……and I’m well aware that Jesus/The Apostles were anything but nice when it came to dealing with PRIDEFUL PEOPLE/MOCKERS who sought to put down others and care not for the TRUTH.Go here for some good articles on the issue:

This is the one dealing with the 3 CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE JESUS encountered and the standard response for each category)

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=5167

This is the one dealing with the 3 CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE JESUS encountered andthe standard response for each category

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=4399

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1308

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=618

Not everyone, however, who raises a point/disagrees with something is necesarrily a mocker…..some are simply confused, dealing with hurts, or incomplete in their theology (as it was with many of the Corinthians, for not all of them were scoffers). and yet many people like this are automatically given a sarcastic remark of some sort as if it’s cool by itself. Also, I realize that Perception is reality. The approach as I see other’s comments is they express themselves not only from their thoughts, but also from their passions.There are cases where I thought the comments (not mine necessarily), were really gentle, but the reply was that the gentle person was being manipulative or playing mind games. I really thought this would really isolated, but it appears in today’s discussion environment, many are very sensitive to whether someone is trying to perform therapy on them over the discussion board.

What I have found is that if the dialog continues with considerations that others will have their passions bleed over into their words more than what the recipient is accustom to, then understanding is often acheived. those who are constantly sarastic may do so with a love for the art (especially if that’s how they best RECIEVE/LEARN information)……..and they may honestly do so with the best of intentions at heart/DESIRING to help another, but may be percieved wrongly as having dark intentions/being attacking on another because of how another use the technique wrongly, consequently resulting in a aversion to anything similar of it and no room for objectivity/consideration on the issue………… And on the flip side, the same effect can happen for those who are gentle/sincerly seeking to bless others but may be unfairly suspected of manipulating/deception because of how someone employed the technique negatively.

It’s just like money. If one recieved counterfit dollar bills by another and that person suffered as a result (such as trying to turn the money into the bank and then finding out they were fooled wrongly), or saw someone use money in an evil way (such as using it to possibly buy drugs/sell them to children or for purposes of embezzlment, etc), it would be illogical for them to claim “MONEY IS EVIL” or to say that ALL $$$ is fake and, therefore, no longer worth using.The counterfit bills OR ABUSES of cash didn’t represent money’s purpose/usefulnes

AS A WHOLE…..and likewise, the wrong usage of language (sarcasm) doesn’t represent the ENTIRTEY of sarcasm, as in it’s usefulness and other things. It’s a simple matter of not condeming the style of expression because of CERTAIN uses of it.

Going back to my earlier statements, Guess that can leave us with a good question I’d request anyone’s insight/feedback on : IS THE BUILDING OF RELATIONSHIP/EARNING TRUST A NECESSITY/MUST IF SARCASM/MOCKING IS TO EITHER BE JUSTIFIED OR EFFECTIVE IN THE LIVES OF OTHER CHRISTIANS?

Love to hear feedback……& for some excellent articles regarding where I’m trying to come from, please consider these:


http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=3355
The above one deals with communication skills

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1436

This above one deals with how to properly EXHORT PEOPLE http://christianwomentoday.com/growth/truthinlove.htmlThis one deals with speaking the TRUTH IN LOVE….

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=3362

This above one deals with what a Biblical view of EXHORTTION looks like….

This one deals with James 3 ON TAMING THE TONGUE, which of course gets DOWNPLAYED ALL OF THE TIME:

http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuse…d-Part-One.htm

http://bibletools.org//index.cfm/fus….sr/CT/RA/k/16

Blessings……

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