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The ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS: A Study on the Recent Situation on RICK WARREN/WORKING WITH THOSE AGAINST THE FAITH…

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on November 7, 2007

As the old saying goes, “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”……& yet I wonder how many times it has been the case that many of us in our actions begin to lay down the first stones there & not even realize that we’re traveling it.To illustrate, some history should be considered:

 2 Chronicles 17

Jehoshaphat King of Judah

 1 Jehoshaphat his son succeeded him as king and strengthened himself against Israel. 2 He stationed troops in all the fortified cities of Judah and put garrisons in Judah and in the towns of Ephraim that his father Asa had captured.  3 The LORD was with Jehoshaphat because in his early years he walked in the ways his father David had followed. He did not consult the Baals 4 but sought the God of his father and followed his commands rather than the practices of Israel. 5 The LORD established the kingdom under his control; and all Judah brought gifts to Jehoshaphat, so that he had great wealth and honor. 6 His heart was devoted to the ways of the LORD; furthermore, he removed the high places and the Asherah poles from Judah.  7 In the third year of his reign he sent his officials Ben-Hail, Obadiah, Zechariah, Nethanel and Micaiah to teach in the towns of Judah. 8 With them were certain Levites—Shemaiah, Nethaniah, Zebadiah, Asahel, Shemiramoth, Jehonathan, Adonijah, Tobijah and Tob-Adonijah—and the priests Elishama and Jehoram. 9 They taught throughout Judah, taking with them the Book of the Law of the LORD; they went around to all the towns of Judah and taught the people.  10 The fear of the LORD fell on all the kingdoms of the lands surrounding Judah, so that they did not make war with Jehoshaphat. 11 Some Philistines brought Jehoshaphat gifts and silver as tribute, and the Arabs brought him flocks: seven thousand seven hundred rams and seven thousand seven hundred goats.  12 Jehoshaphat became more and more powerful; he built forts and store cities in Judah 13 and had large supplies in the towns of Judah. He also kept experienced fighting men in Jerusalem. 14 Their enrollment by families was as follows:
      From Judah, commanders of units of 1,000:
       Adnah the commander, with 300,000 fighting men;
 15 next, Jehohanan the commander, with 280,000;  16 next, Amasiah son of Zicri, who volunteered himself for the service of the LORD, with 200,000.  17 From Benjamin:
       Eliada, a valiant soldier, with 200,000 men armed with bows and shields;
 18 next, Jehozabad, with 180,000 men armed for battle.  19 These were the men who served the king, besides those he stationed in the fortified cities throughout Judah.

             Jehosaphat was a righteous man after God’s heart, & he did much to reform the nation from where it once was. The people of Judah were Biblically illiterate, never taking the time to listen to and discuss God’s law and understand how it could change them. Jehosophat realized that knowing God’s commands was the first step to getting people to live as they should, so he initiated a nationwide religious education program

            However, despite all of the good that Jehosaphat accomplished & how deeply he was committed to God, he fell into the same mentality of Good INTENTIONS being sufficient to justify decisions. At one point, he allied himself with the infamous King AHAB, in a bid to “strengthen the nation”. He solidified this alliance by arranging for his son to marry Athaliah, the daughter of wicked King Ahab of Israel, and then made a military alliance with him……..with Jehoshaphet’s popularity/power making him ATTRACTIVE to the cunning/opportunistic Ahab (II Chronicles 18)

            Though Jehosaphat had believed he was doing a “good thing”, the effects of his alliance were devastating due to 3 consequences: (1) Jehoshaphat incurred God’s Wrath (II Chronicles 19:2); (2) It was through ATHALIAH that Judah was exposed to the EVIL PRACTICES OF ISRAEL, FOR SHE HELPED PROPAGATE BAAL WORSHIP IN JUDAG & THIS EVENTUALLY LED TO THE SOUTHERN KINGDOM’S DECLINE/downfall (II Kings 8:18-29)….& 3.)When Jehosophat died and Attialiah’s son, as well as her husband perished (II Kings 9-10), Athaliah became Queen, she seized the throne and almost WIPED OUT ALL THE DESCENDANTS OF DAVID (II Chronicles 22:10-12).

            All of that said, one will QUICKLY GET THE PICTURE that while Jehosophat’s alliance with Ahab may’ve been POLITICALLY ADVANTEGOUS, it was SPIRITUALLY DEADLY…….& though he probably didn’t wish for all of the consequences of his decisions to happen, the damage was done.

 All because of GOOD INTENTIONS…….

The same scenario isn’t an ISOLATED ONE. Anyone who’s honestly studying throughout the books of I-II Kings and I-II Chronicles will quickly find that out…..

It happened with Jehosaphat’s father before him, II Chronicles 15, before his confidence in God began to slip & he began to rely on human means via alliances with PAGAN NATIONS…II Chronicles 16, rather than turning to the God who helped him earlier, II Chronicles 14…….)

It happened with nearly all of the Kings after Jehoshaphat in Judah…..

It happened with Israel after the split of the nation, where King Jereboam set up his own worship centers and told in people it was too far to travel to Jerusalem (which was in the ENEMY NATION OF JUDAH), all for the sake of being “PRACTICAL”/SECURING HIS POSITION….and consequently, his actions resulted in a religion that had nothing to do with the original and eventually resulted in era of apostacy that Israel never recovered from (I Kings 12).

It happened with the ORIGINAL KING OF ISRAEL, SOLOMON….for back in his day, marriages between royal families was a common practice in the ancient Near EAST because it secured PEACE…..and although Solomon’s marital alliances built friendships with surrounding nations that were necessary for dealing with COMMON PROBLEMS they ALL HAD, THEY WERE ALSO THE BEGINNING OF HIS DOWNFALL. These alliances became inroads for pagan ideas and practices.  And Solomon’s foreign wives eventually brought their gods to Jerusalem and eventually led him into idolatry (I Kings 3:1-3, I Kings 11:1-6)

 The same thing also happened before Israel even had a king, for the people were given EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS NOT TO DEVELOP ALLIANCES WITH THOSE WHO DIDN’T BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD/HIS STANDARDS (Deuteronomy 7-31, Joshua 23), but they choose otherwise. Seeing that the Israelites were nomadic people, they may’ve been reluctant to settle down, preffering to depend ECONOMICALLY on the people they were supposed to destroy and whose influence they were to have nothing to do with. Some feared the high cost of continued warfare,, seeing trading for goods as an easier route and more profitable than resisting them….. The RESULT: On the Eve of fully conquering the Land, they chose to make business alliances with the people there……& A 400 YEAR LONG “DARK AGE” happened WHERE THERE WAS NO LONGER ANY OBJECTIVE STANDARD OF TRUTH AND “EVERYONE DID WHAT WAS RIGHT IN THEIR OWN EYES (  Joshua 15:63, Joshua 16:10, Joshua 17-18, Judges 1-16)

            The list could go on, but I bring all of  that up because, as the old saying goes, “there’s nothing NEW under the sun….” (Ecclesiastes 1:8-10)….& the same thing is happening today.

 For those who don’t know, RICK WARREN—Author of the book “Purpose DRIVEN LIFE”, recently got alot of Christians really disturbed at him, seeing that he claims to be against abortion &  yet he had Senator Barack Obama come to his church & speak,…….never calling out ANYTHING he did wrong since Obama is PRO-ABORTION.
When questioned point blank, Rick Warren said that it really doesn’t matter whether you’re gay orpro-abortion or anything else, as long as you’re working on a social issue. In his view, as long as people have “good intentions”/a common goal, everything should be fine…..

Go here to find out:

 

Also, for a good sermon on the issue, go here:

http://gcraige.podbean.com/2007/09/02/ex-cast-episode-16-will-ford/

 There are various other issues with Warren/THE COMPROMISES HE HAS MADE which I take serious issue with, DESPITE ALL OF THE GOOD HE MAY’VE DONE,  & for more information on the subject, go here:

Regarding the “Purpose Driven Life” issue:

http://cicministry.org/radio_series.php?series=redefining
(This has radio messages of what the man’s saying in case reading his material,
which is pretty in depth, is too much )

http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue80.htm 

http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue86.htm 

This one’s pretty solid as well:http://www.apprising.org/archives/rick_warren/index.html (probably the easiest to read & the most resourceful, as they give quotes & articles, as well as
actual newsreports on issues that slip by alot of people.

For examples, go here:http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/05/rick_warren_a_p.htmlhttp://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55616http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/05/rick_warren_as.htmlhttp://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/06/robert_schuller_1.html

There are, of course, other sites where I recieved/studied my information from…..but these are the ones which have the most detail on things, & though I
don’t feel them on EVERY thing they say (or how they go about some things),
THEY’RE ALOT MORE SOLID ON THE MAJORITY of things BIBLICALLY than many others.
 Back to the original issue with Warren, I’m very concerned regarding his mentality. Many Christians seem to have the same as well, but never seem to want to go to the Word to see what it has to say…..and regarding SCRIPTURE, when believers in leadership positions becomed allied with unbelievers, values can be compromised and spiritual awareness dulled. This is something that the Bible often warns against:

 2 Corinthians 6:13-17

Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers

 14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[a]? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”[b]
 17“Therefore come out from them
      and be separate, says the Lord.
   Touch no unclean thing,
      and I will receive you.”[c]

           

 This passage is one where even Paul urges believers NOT TO FORM BINDING RELATIONSHIPS with non-believers, because this might weaken their Christian Commitment, Integrity, and Standards. It would simply be a mismatch.

            Earlier, Paul had explained that this did not mean ISOLATING oneself from non-believers, for then we wouldn’t be able to carry out Christ’s Command to tell them about Salvation (Matthew 28:18-20, I Corinthians 5:9-10),…..and we have been admonished to DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM ANYONE WHO CLAIMS THE NAME OF CHRIST AND YET INDULGES in SINS EXPLICITLY FORBIDDEN IN SCRIPTURE, later RATIONALIZING THEIR ACTIONS,……FOR in doing so, that person harms others for whom Christ died and DIMS THE IMAGE of God in himself or herself.

  Paul wanted believers to be active in their witness for Christ to non-believers, but they shouldn’t lock themselves into PERSONAL OR BINDING BUISNESS RELATIONSHIPS that could cause them to compromise the faith……& IMHO, RICK WARREN HAS DONE JUST THAT. Seeing that believers are to do EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO AVOID SITUATIONS that could force them to divide their loyalties, this is a SERIOUS ISSUE.

When God’s Word says for us to expose evil works of darkness (Ephesians 5:8-15), & yet there’s a willingness to avoid that for an apparent “good”, THAT’S A PROBLEM.

Moreover, when we seem to leave the Word Of God out of decisions as big as what Warren was doing, that’s a problem…… for in doing so, we act just like King Jehoshaphat, who relied on God when the challenges were obvious, like the need for religious education of his people or the threat of War with a vast army (2 Chronicles 17-21:1) & yet ignored God in the day-to-day plans/actions when the odds weren’t clearly against him.

 

 

God’s guidance/faithfulmess when the issues are clear and the enemy overwhelming is more than enough reason to seek His Guidance when the issues are unclear and the enemy is unseen,……but we repeat Jehoshaphat’s error when we regulate God to the background in the “easy decisions of life”. Then when things get out of hand, we want him to get us out of the MESS we got ourselves into

 

 

There’s much more to say on the subject, but I think that’s enough for now……& to the readers, I’d be most interested in hearing your thoughts. As others have wisely said,

George Bernard Shaw: We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.

Gustave Flaubert: Our ignorance of history causes us to slander our own times. 

And I do pray that the saints would truly learn from history on this one.  

Proverbs 12:26
A righteous man is cautious in friendship, but the way of the wicked leads them astray

.Proverbs 25:26
Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked.
 

Isaiah 42:17-23

23 Which of you will listen to this
       or pay close attention in time to come?

1 Corinthians 10

Warnings From Israel’s History

 1For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered over the desert.  6Now these things occurred as examples[a] to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in pagan revelry.”[b] 8We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did—and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9We should not test the Lord, as some of them did—and were killed by snakes. 10And do not grumble, as some of them did—and were killed by the destroying angel.  11These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. 12So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall! 13No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.

 1 Corinthians 15:33


Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”

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