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Don’t JUDGE: A Study on what the Word says on JUDGING/DISCERNMENT (Part 2)

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 28, 2007

     

 

NAMING NAMES
Is it Biblical?

( http://www.forgottenword.org/naming-names.html)

 

 

 Scoping, Identifying & Taking Aim at Deceivers:
Knowing How and When to Mark
A Must-Read for all who desire more discernment to escape the evil one in this late hour. This is an excerpt from the book entitled Deceivers & False Prophets Among Us .

 

 


    “Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” Romans 16:17

Identifying and marking “them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine” of the LORD, is to be a regular part of the Christian life. In an hour when the proliferation of false teaching is mutating at an increasingly exponential rate, those who love the LORD must examine and test everything against the final authority of the recorded oracles of God (Acts 17:11). The following warning enlightens us to understand this:

    “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” Colossians 2:8

Would the all-knowing God have put such a warning in His Word if being spoiled were not possible? People can be spoiled (derailed, made shipwreck of) through false doctrines and philosophies, which, without fail, elevate men and demote Christ (Col. 2:8-9; 18-19).

These derailment elements are designed to steal glory from Christ. If we love Him, we are to “hear God’s words” and “hate every false way.” (Jn. 8:47; Ps. 119:104, 128; Amos 5:14-15)

Let’s break this extremely important Bible text down:

“Mark them” – Beloved, we are mandated to simply and truly hearken to this divinely given instruction, to personally own this truth and walk in it, to be possessed with the protective love of our holy and “Great Shepherd of the sheep.” (Heb. 13:20) One of the ways the “Great Shepherd” protects the sheep of His pasture, is by His other sheep, scoping out and marking the wolves whose venomous lies would devour.

The clear instruction of the Word is to “mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine.” All human sediments, reasonings, and excuses must be crucified.

“Mark them” – the Greek word here for “mark” is skopeo, which means “to scope out; to take aim at, consider, watch.”

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DON’T JUDGE!!!!: The 411 on what the BIBLE says about JUDGING.

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 28, 2007

Years ago, the # 1 scripture that everyone used to quote was John 3:16, where they’d say for God so loves the World that he gave His only begotten son….

Nowadays, guess what everyone’s favorite is? “Do Judge lest you be judged…..”

What’s even more odd than the change is sCRIPTURES used is that this paticular scripture is used in instances where there’s often SIN (i.e. homosexuality, lust, murder, bitterness, the list goes on) & convicting/alerting others to what the standards of God are. Many will com plain about the sin & mess they’ll see taking place in society/the church going on, & yet when anyone even tries to adress it, the “judge not lest ye be judged” verse gets busted out…….alongside labels such as “You’re condeming”, “Jesus is LOVE”, “The same can happen to you, so stop calling it out”, etc……….& yet it’s sad that those who’d often quote the scripture are often NOT SAVED…..or have NO UNDERSTANDING AS TO THE ORIGINAL CONTEXT IN WHICH the verse was QUOTED IN.

T hat said, here’s an EXCELLENT TEACHING on the subject regarding what the BIBLE says about JUDGING—What it looks like in CONTEXT, how we’re to practice it, & what to do when it seems it has gotten out of line :

http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue94.htm

Discernment in an Age of Deception
Defining the Believer’s Biblical Call to Judge

by Bob DeWaay

Editor’s note: The following is a Bible study that pastor Bob conducted by request to prepare for a live radio show on the topic. We decided that this material is important and answers questions most Christians have. Therefore we decided to publish it, knowing that its format is more of a topical Bible study than the type of literature CICusually publishes. We hope that you find this Bible study helpful and informative.

Many times, after publishing an article that disputes the claims of someone’s published work, I am asked if I had talked to the person privately. There are those who claim that debating ideas in the public arena should not happen unless there was a prior Matthew 18 process of adjudication. It is my position that Matthew 18 does not apply to the public interaction of theological ideas. In this paper, I shall examine various New Testament passages that explain what we must and must not judge.

It is not surprising that people are confused about the matter of passing judgment because some scriptures tell us we must make judgments and discern, and others warn us not to judge. We will see that Scripture provides straightforward, objective guidelines concerning making judgments and that both the commands to judge and the commands not to judge are understandable – and they are to be obeyed.
 

Do Not Judge – Matthew 7

The following teaching from the Sermon on the Mount warns us not to judge:

Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, “Let me take the speck out of your eye,” and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. (Matthew 7:1-5)

Before we interpret those verses we must look at the sermon in Matthew that preceded it. The Sermon on the Mount concerns motives and sin. For example, the hypocrite prays to be “seen of men” (Matthew 6:5). Jesus’ sermon contains warnings against anger (Matthew 5:22), lust (Matthew 5:28), a command to love one’s enemies (Matthew 5:44) and a warning against loving money (Matthew 6:24). Jesus addresses many sin issues in a manner that would show everyone their sinfulness and need for the Gospel.

Jesus said, “For I say to you, that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:20). This statement would have shocked Jesus’ hearers because the scribes and Pharisees were fastidious in keeping the law of external rules. A righteousness greater than theirs could only be the imputed righteousness of Christ that changes the heart. Without Christ’s righteousness we cannot enter the kingdom.

Given this context, what is the meaning of Matthew 7:1-5? The answer is that we are warned against judging how righteous others are in comparison to ourselves. This passage is a warning against self righteousness. As sinners, we tend to minimize or rationalize our own transgressions and magnify what we see wrong in others. Jesus warns about this because self-righteousness like that of the hypocritical Pharisees will keep a person out of the kingdom of God. It is the poor in spirit and the persecuted who will “inherit the kingdom of God” (Matthew 5:3, 10). These humbled people know they need a savior.

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PROPHESY/PROPHETS: Are they for Today?? (Part 3)

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 27, 2007

This is an informative article on the issue that most people seem to misunderstand nowadays regarding prophetic issues: THAT OF DISCERNMENT ( http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue81.htm ):

The Discerning of Spirits


“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” (1John 4:1)

Twenty years ago I received a phone call from a woman who claimed to have a word from God for me. She began prophesying, “You are a great man of God, full of power, and God is going to use you in a powerful way. You are going to be a mighty warrior for God . . .” I was very suspicious of this “word from God,” knowing that God was unlikely to call me on the phone to flatter me. Knowing what it says in 1John 4:1-3 I decided to try the test literally. I asked the voice on the phone, “Has Jesus Christ come in the flesh”? The answer on the other end of the line was, “She believes that.” I said, “Wrong answer” and hung up. The spirit that was inspiring the prophecy answered in the 2nd person.

Now that I have a better understanding of 1John 4:1-3, I would not need to ask that question directly, because I would know from the content of the prophesy that the spirit motivating the prophecy was not from God. The Bible gives us objective guidelines for discerning spirits. We need to know these guidelines if we are going to avoid deception.

We live in an age where mysticism and spiritual experiences are prevalent. The days of materialistic, secular humanism have given way to the New Age of spirituality. Our era is often called “post-modern;” it is an age of subjectivism. This means that we no longer believe that science, reason, and rationality can solve humanity’s problems. Our culture has turned inward to subjective, spiritual, self-validating experiences. Now people rarely ask, “Is it true?” but ask instead, “Does it work for me?”

As has often been the case, the Christian church is again allowing itself to be heavily influenced by the thinking of the contemporary culture. David Wells, one of the first to warn about the dangers of subjectivism in the church, discusses the objectivity of Biblical truth as understood by early Christians:

The fact that God’s truth was transmitted through events external to the individual meant that it was objective, and the fact that it was objective meant, further, that his truth was public. . . The content of this truth could not be privatized, reduced within private consciousness. Those who were trained by biblical revelation could not follow the path of the pagans, who established faith on their experience of nature and their intuitions regarding human nature. Their faith was grounded solely in the objective and public nature of God’s Word. They stood alone among these ancient cultures, their faith was distinctive and unique.1

In a footnote about the statement above, Wells remarks: “In this post-modern context, where meaning has contracted into the self, criteria for discerning truth from falsehood become almost as numerous as the discerners.”2

Wells is absolutely right. Once discernment becomes subjective rather than objective, one does not have it! When a person’s inner spiritual impressions are trusted to separate truth from error, “spirits” from the Holy Spirit, and what is of God from what is not, the person becomes the prey of forces of darkness that are very adept at appearing as angels of light.

My thesis is this: discernment is objective and the Scriptures alone give us the tools to discern spirits. In this article we shall see from the Bible that this is the case.

Prophecy Followed by Judging

To “prophesy” is to claim to speak what is from God or in keeping with God’s revelation. Only the Scriptures are God’s authoritative word to man. Prophecy in the church today is not adding authoritative revelation, but exhorting, encouraging, or comforting through speaking from God’s word: “But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation” (1Corinthians 14:3). Prophecy should be taken in the broad sense of anyone claiming to speak for God. Thus the term “prophecy” covers legitimate and illegitimate speaking for God. Therefore prophecy needs to be judged.

Prophecy has a spiritual source. When John tells us not to believe every “spirit” (1John 4:1), it is because many false “prophets” have gone out into the world. The spiritual source speaks through a human spokesperson. Thus if someone claims to speak for God and is giving spiritual teaching, we must determine whether or not the teaching is from the Holy Spirit or a deceiving spirit. This is the essence of the discerning of spirits.

Consider this passage in 1Corinthians: “and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues” (1Corinthans 12:10). Many people interpret “the distinguishing of spirits” to be the subjective ability to see evil spirits and identify them – I disagree with this. One who holds this viewpoint is Neil Anderson. Let us evaluate his subjective interpretation of this passage:

In 1Corinthians 12:10, discernment is the divinely enabled ability to distinguish a good spirit from a bad spirit. It is a manifestation of the Spirit, which is to be utilized to edify the church. Spiritual discernment is not a function of the mind; it’s a function of the spirit. . . . the Spirit helps us know what cannot be objectively verified.3

According to Anderson the discerning of spirits is neither objective nor cognitive, but some type of inner impression. He misses the fact that “distinguishing” one thing from another is always an act of the mind. The mind has to decide about what is under consideration, be it types of spirits as Anderson claims or the source of a prophecy as I am going to claim. There is no such thing as non-mental discernment.

Gordon Fee points out that the order (prophecy first then literally from the Greek, discernment of spirits) is in keeping with other passages in the New Testament.4 This would mean that “discerning spirits” is the equivalent of judging prophecy. Fee ties the “distinguishing of spirits” to judging prophecy based on the similarity to Paul’s terminology in other passages. In the following paragraphs I will deal with each of the other passages that deal with this concept and defend the proposition that the discerning of spirits is the judging of prophecy.

Another passage where prophecy is followed by judging is this one: “Do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good” (1Thessalonians 5:20, 21). It is fair to assume that the “prophetic utterances” that Paul mentions here are of the same sort that he addresses in 1Corinthians. Members of the congregation were speaking forth what they believed to be from God. To despise here means “to make absolutely nothing of” or to “hold in contempt.”5 Rather than automatically disregarding anything that was purported to be from God, the Thessalonians were to “examine” what was said and distinguish the good from the bad. The word “examine” here is dokimazo_ which has to do with putting something to the test to determine its nature. It means, “to test, examine, or scrutinize.” The same Greek word is used in this passage: “that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ” (1Peter 1:7), where it is translated “tested.” Prophecy is to be carefully put to the test to see if it is from God.

This type of testing is objective. The word dokimazo_ is used of assaying gold (as Peter’s usage shows). It is a means of determining the true nature of the item tested. Just as Peter tells us that we need to know that our faith is genuine (which it proves to be under severe testing), we need to know if people claiming to speak for God are indeed doing so. Nothing could be more foreign to Paul’s teaching in 1Thessalonians than uncritically accepting religious teaching for subjective reasons. But this is exactly what many today do. If a teaching makes them feel happy or uplifted, they think it must be from God. This is a subjective test and will not work. False doctrine makes many people happy. Conversely true doctrine makes many people upset.

Paul also discusses the gift of prophecy in Romans 12:6, “And since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let each exercise them accordingly: if prophecy, according to the proportion of his faith.” There is an issue of translation from the Greek here. The passage says literally, “according to the analogy of the faith.” Though some have argued that “his faith” (in the subjective sense) is in view, I do not think this interpretation fits the grammar or the larger Biblical context. Opinion on this matter is divided. Some scholars see a subjective understanding of “faith” (as the NASB translates it). Others see the literal translation “the faith” as being the objective content of the faith once for all delivered to the saints (Jude 1:3). If, however, one considers both the literal Greek6 and the fact that elsewhere in the New Testament prophecy is to be judged, the objective understanding makes the most sense.

Charles Hodge spends several pages in his commentary on Romans arguing for an objective understanding of this passage. He wrote:

If, however, faith here means, as it does in so many other places, the object of faith, or the truths to be believed, (see Galatians 1:23; 3:25; 6:10; Ephesians 4:5; 1 Thessalonians 3:5, etc.,) then according to the proportion signifies, agreeably to the rule or standard; and the apostle’s direction to the prophets is, that in all their communications they are to conform to the rule of faith, and not contradict those doctrines which had been delivered by men whose inspiration had been established by indubitable evidence. In favor of this view of the passage is the frequent use of the word faith in the sense thus assigned to it. The ordinary subjective sense of the word does not suit the passage.7

Similarly, Lenski writes, “Now ‘prophecy’ is objective, the contents of what one may prophesy, and it is plain that the controlling norm for this cannot be something subjective, the prophet’s own trust, but in the very nature of the case must also be something objective, ‘the faith (or doctrine) once delivered to the saints.’”8

So in Romans 12:6, prophecy is once again followed by an objective test: the faith once for all delivered to the saints. The member of the congregation who gives a prophecy must be willing to submit that prophecy to the standard of the faith. It must be in agreement with the objective teachings of Scripture.

In 1Corinthians 14:29, Paul again addresses this issue: “And let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment.” A key concept in understanding this passage is what Paul means by “prophets.” Sometimes this word is speaking of a person with the office of a prophet (like Agabus), but often it means “one who is prophesying.” The context shows that the latter is Paul’s meaning here.9 For example, consider verse 31: “For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted” (1Corinthians 14:31). Notice the possibility of any member of the congregation giving a prophecy. Paul is not speaking of a class of people, “prophets,” as distinguished from ordinary Christians. Notice also the proper result of prophecy: “may be exhorted.” This agrees with the key purposes of this type of prophecy: “But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation” (1Corinthians 14:3).

The judgment (discerning)10 of prophecy then would involve others in the congregation discerning whether or not the exhortation was a valid implication of the faith. If a “prophesying one” were exhorting people to some belief or action that was not in keeping with the apostolic teaching that Paul had delivered to the congregation, then it was to be rejected as not coming from the Holy Spirit. This is confirmed by something Paul says a few verses later: “If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment” (1Corinthians 14:37). Paul’s letter to them is objectively God’s authoritative word. Their spiritual utterance must be judged by the objective writings, not the subjective (what the “spiritual” person thinks).

So far we have seen that prophecy is always to be judged by objective standards. In a most general sense, to prophesy is to claim to speak for God. The Scriptures are God’s inspired word. Only that which agrees with scripture properly applied is authoritative and binding. Now we will examine in some detail a very important text about discerning spirits.

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PROPHETS/PROPHESY: Are they for today? (Part 2)

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 27, 2007

Continuing with where the previous post left off, here’s an trustworthy article on the role of prophecy & how it is to be operated in the modern day church. I studied the article, alongside Scripture awhile back, & it is my conclusion that it is one of the most accurate ones you’ll find on the subject…..& the one which best represents where I stand on the subject. If others disagree, fine……..for there’s more than enough room for discussion, & I’d be more than open to share my mind. Pray ya’ll enjoy…( & if anyone would like more information on the subject, go here: http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue95.htm

http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue95b.htm

http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue74b.htm )

Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.” (1Thessalonians 5:19-22)

Paul instructs us to take prophetic utterances seriously. To “despise” means to treat with “dismissive disdain.”1 In 1Corinthians 14:31, Paul wrote, “For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted.” He spoke, not about utterances of official authoritative prophets, but about prophetic utterances that could be given by any member of the congregation.

Today many are confused about the meaning of the term “prophecy” as it was used in the 1st century church, and what, if anything, it is in the church today. Some assume that prophesies were spontaneous, “ecstatic utterances” caused by the Holy Spirit. Some, who hold this view, believe that these utterances have ceased. Others hold the same view, but believe that these ecstatic utterances are also for the church today. Still others believe that prophecy in the first century was the Holy Spirit giving inspired revelation that was necessary to fill in the gap caused by the incomplete canon of the New Testament. Those who hold this latter view generally say that all prophecy has ceased.2

Here is what I believe: that prophecy, as addressed by the passages above, is to proclaim valid implications and applications of authoritative Scripture. Under the New Covenant, every redeemed child of God has the Holy Spirit, and therefore may prophesy. This is an implication of Peter’s citation of Joel in Acts 2:17—rather than the Holy Spirit only coming upon certain persons as under the Old Covenant, He indwells every true New Covenant believer. This is why they “may all prophesy” as Paul wrote.

The Reformation Teaching on Prophecy in the Church

The restoration of prophecy for every believer was important to both Luther and Calvin. The alternative was that only the teaching magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church had the authority to prophesy. Luther often cited 1Corinthians 14:31 as proof of Rome’s error in this regard. For example, consider how Luther used the passage here:

Also, “You can all prophesy, one by one” [I Cor. 14:31]. What sense is there to this drunken prattle of the pope and his papists, though handed down over many generations: “We command, we earnestly direct, the Church of Rome is Mistress of the churches and the articles of faith”? All right, let her sit and teach and be a mistress, yet here she is commanded to be silent, if a revelation is made to one sitting by. Not only she, but each of us, one by one, may prophesy, says Paul, a master and corrector even of Peter when he acted insincerely [Gal. 2:14ff.]. How much more ought we not then confidently judge the church of Rome in its insincerity and feigned authority. We are not to be judged by this church lest we imperil our own salvation and be found to deny Christ.3

In the following discussion of 2Peter 1:19, Luther cites 1Corinthians 14:31 in his discussion of prophecy in the church:

But why does he say: “We have a sure prophetic Word”? Answer: I believe indeed that henceforth we shall not have prophets like those the Jews had in times past in the Old Testament. But a prophet must really be one who preaches about Jesus Christ. Therefore although many prophets in the Old Testament foretold future things, they really came, and were sent by God, to proclaim the Christ. Now those who believe in Christ are all prophets; for they have the real and chief qualification prophets should have, even though they do not all have the gift of foretelling the future. For just as through faith we are brothers of the Lord Christ, kings, and priests, so we are also all prophets through Christ. For we can all state what pertains to salvation, God’s glory, and a Christian life. In addition, we can also talk about future events insofar as it is necessary for us to know about them. For example, we can say that the Last Day will come and that we will rise from the dead. Furthermore, we understand all Scripture. Paul also speaks about this in 1 Cor. 14:31: “For you can all prophesy one by one.”4

Calvin rebuked “enthusiasts” who thought that the utterance of spontaneous ideas apart from the scripture was prophecy:

In like manner, when Paul says to the Thessalonians, “Quench not the Spirit,” he does not carry them aloft to empty speculation apart from the word; he immediately adds, “Despise not prophesying,” (1 Thess. 5:19, 20). By this, doubtless, he intimates that the light of the Spirit is quenched the moment prophesying falls into contempt. How is this answered by those swelling enthusiasts, in whose idea the only true illumination consists, in carelessly laying aside, and bidding adieu to the Word of God, while, with no less confidence than folly, they fasten upon any dreaming notion which may have casually sprung up in their minds? Surely a very different sobriety becomes the children of God. As they feel that without the Spirit of God they are utterly devoid of the light of truth, so they are not ignorant that the word is the instrument by which the illumination of the Spirit is dispensed.5

The Reformation view was that prophecy was the teaching of the Word and proclamation of the terms of the gospel. Since every believer has the Holy Spirit, every believer has the “keys of the kingdom” and can authoritatively declare the terms of entrance into the kingdom. All are anointed and all have the authoritative teachings of Christ and His apostles. Therefore they may prophesy.

Matthew Henry saw prophesying as taught in 1Thessalonians 5:20 as a means of grace:

Despise not prophesyings (v. 20); for, if we neglect the means of grace, we forfeit the Spirit of grace. By prophesyings here we are to understand the preaching of the word, the interpreting and applying of the scriptures; and this we must not despise, but should prize and value, because it is the ordinance of God, appointed of him for our furtherance and increase in knowledge and grace, in holiness and comfort. We must not despise preaching, though it be plain, and not with enticing words of men’s wisdom, and though we be told no more than what we knew before. It is useful, and many times needful, to have our minds stirred up, our affections and resolutions excited, to those things that we knew before to be our interest and our duty.6

This view is commonly found from the Reformation through the 19th century. For example, consider the 19th century scholar Albert Barnes’ comments on 1Thessalonians 5:20:

But the office of addressing mankind on the great duties of religion, and of publishing salvation, is to be God’s great ordinance for converting the world. It should not be despised, and no man commends his own wisdom who contemns it—for it is God’s appointment—the means which he has designated for saving men. . . . There is nothing else that has so much power over mankind as the preaching of the gospel.7

Every believer who accurately announces the terms of the gospel to the lost is prophesying with the full authority of God.

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PROPHETS: Are they for today?

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 27, 2007

“THUS SAY THE LORD ….” If you’ve ever grown up in a Charismatic Church as I have, you probably have heard of this phrase before……& most likely, you’ve seen this happen with people who have claimed God said something, but it wasn’t God. Moreover, you’ve probably seen this happen in cultic movements, from Mormonism with Joseph Smith claiming to be a prophet of God, to JIM JONES, & a whole host of others who’ve claimed the title “PROHET” & done plenty of mess by it.

That said, are prophets alive today…..or have they dissappered? Below is a interesting article on the issue of Prophets, their role in the NT/OT, & whether or not they’re for today. The reason why I wanted to put this out there is because their is considerable debate on the isssue of their existence today…….& in light of how there are many nowadays who claim the title & have done much damage by it, especially within Charismatic circles as I have seen for myself since I’m Charismatic (i.e. making false prophesies, saying to others they speak for God, \ & must do EVERYTHING they say or be cursed/disobeying God, etc)< seems pertinent to put some ggod feedback on the subject. Pray that it blesses/enlightens someone…..& if anyone has any thoughts on the issues, please share:

 

W e witness a mushrooming of ‘prophets’ in today’s more charismatic Christian congregations. One whole group of the new prophets will be found within ‘positive confession’ (prosperity gospel) churches, and another group within the older-type ‘restorationist’ (pentecostal/charismatic) congregations.

Some of these new prophets have made some quite amazing prophetic statements and claims and – lamentably – cult watchers are already filling books with failed prophecies. We could detail those here, but I don’t want to do that since others have done it. I simply want to question the whole concept of modern-day prophets within the Church. Let us do that.

The age of the great Old Testament Prophets has, of course, now past. There are no Isaiahs, Jeremiahs or Ezekiels around today. Hebrews 1:1-2 plainly tells us that we now live in a new era:

In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. (NIV).The age of the Prophets who were undoubtedly famous men within their own societies has now past. The great Hebrew Prophets could claim an audience before kings and princes and were undoubtedly famous men indeed. And yet, Scriptures such as Romans 12:6, 1 Corinthians 12:10 and 14:29-32, show that a gift of prophecy can be expected to be witnessed in the New Covenant Church of God!

Romans 12:6-8

6We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man’s gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his[a]faith. 7If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; 8if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.

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Seriously “Challenged” when you promote BLASPHEMY CHALLENGE

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 24, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV_UFaoNbhg

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2833103&page=1

To anyone who’ll watch this, the video should be enough to speak for itself………..but for a sneak peak/epilouge, the video is centered around a group called the Rational Response Squad:

 a group of outspoken atheists who confront what they consider to be irrational claims, most notably those made by theists. The co-founders of the RRS are Brian Sapient (Sapient is an alias he uses due to fear of reprisals)[1] and Rook Hawkins. The Rational Response Squad, along with the filmmaker Brian Flemming, made headlines in December 2006 with their Blasphemy Challenge”…….& they are the ones who have started something called the  BLAMSPHEMY CHALLENGE, …….

For a description, “The Blasphemy Challenge, started in December 2006, is an Internet-based project which aims to get atheists to come out and declare themselves as atheists.[2] The challenge asks atheists to submit videos to the website YouTube, in which they record themselves blaspheming the Holy Spirit.[3] According to the Rational Response Squad’s interpretation of the Bible, this action is considered an unforgivable sin.[4] Thus, users who took the challenge saw themselves as crossing a point of no returnGod and would “accept the consequences” if after their death they find that God does exist.[2] The first 1001 users who took the challenge received a DVD of Flemming’s documentary film The God Who Wasn’t There.[5] Publicly known persons such as the illusionist Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett, and Raël, founder of the International Raëlian Movement, participated in the project.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_Response_Squad

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to prove that they truly did not believe in the biblical

I’ll share more of my thoughts on the issue later in this post, for at the moment I was mainly concerned with simply getting this video out to the public……but please take note. When it comes to the point where you have men & women in the masses no longer content with denying God in their actions but being proud/LOUD IN DECLARING THAT THEY EITHER HATE GOD, CURSE THE HOLY SPIRIT, OR ARE PROUD TO GO TO HELL……..you know you’re in dangerous times.

I cannot remember at the moment where I heard the quote, but I’m reminded of the saying “If men shall curse somone as high as God, where will they stop?…..& that’s something that should concern you all. Notice by the way that whenever questioned about whether or not God exists or why religion is irrevelant, the man behind the movement simply says “There’s just no good reason to…”….which seems highly INADEQUATE of an argument.

Mr. Brian, by the way, has been questioned on his views before…..with RATIONAL ARGUMENTS, & I thought it’d be beneficial to post them for everyone to read/listen to, seeing that you’ll most likely encounter these kinds of situations in your schools, jobs, or any other environment you’re in. For the World is HOSTILE TO THE LORD……..& if you’re going to navigate in it, you’d better know how to FIGHT BACK when the FIGHT COMES TO YA. The debates where between Mr.Brian & a man by the name of Matt Slick, whose the leader/author of one of the my most favorite sites CARM (www.carm.org)– A Christian Apolegetics/Research Ministry.

In the order of EVENTS which the DEBATE TOOK PLACE:

Matt Slick vs Kelly (Rational Response Squad) Prt1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMyfQBUMoM4

Matt Slick vs Kelly (Rational Response Squad) Prt2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG7gDOndjMs

Matt Slick vs Kelly (Rational Response Squad) Prt3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY6ggGr9BDo

Matt Slick vs Kelly (Rational Response Squad) Prt4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdHQV9kfkRI

Matt Slick vs Kelly (Rational Response Squad) Prt5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYTq51eKA4

Matt Slick vs Kelly (Rational Response Squad) Prt6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpSV5lTS3k

What are ya’lls thoughts???

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In Memory of Michael Jackson……Taken too soon (facially speaking, of course)

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 23, 2007

Yes, this is a silly post……..but minus the fact that I like the song, just felt like being silly & posting it. Couldn’t help but be sadden by looking at where Mike used to be (looked at) & where he is now……but perhaps GOD’LL save him. Will write more on the subject later……

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People are too stupid for Philosophy?????

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 23, 2007

To anyone who’ll read this,

The other day, as I was sitting down & thinking on how much mess seems to run rampant in the modern day church….largely becasuse it seems that people have been trained NOT TO THINK & belive that anytime where they’re questioning due to what they see in the Word of God is SIN, I was reminded of a conversation I recently had with a woman about the issue. In her own words,

“WHen I was in college, I was considering a minor in philosophy, and one day my favorite philosophy professor invited me to attend a meeting of the philosophy club. I sat there watching people struggle to impress one another with their profound insights.

It was one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen. It would take forever for each person to complete a statement…..every word was carefully weighed, with lots of “uhhhhh’s” to fill in the dead space as the rest of us hung on each word, waiting for some coherency to develop eventually.

There’s a saying that is used to disparage Christians: “they are too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good.”

That same principle turned me away from further commitment to philosophical studies. If one’s “superior” thought process renders one unable to communicate with others, it’s a waste of time and a great example of the speculations and lofty things raised up against the knowledge of God that Paul warns against in 2 Corinthians 10:5. Christians are to be like little children, and prideful assertions of intellectual superiority don’t fit that model at all.”

OF course, I responded back to her with some arguments based on ACTS 17, where Paul witnessed to those on Mars Hill.

To give understanding to the CONTEXT of this passage, Athens was the cultural center of Greece—the center for Greek Culture, philosophy, and education—-and home to renowned philosophers in history like Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, who was arguably the most influential one of them all. There were also two other significant philosophers taught there and there names were Epicurus (founder of Epicureanism and Zeno, founder of Stoicism—two of the most dominant philosophies of that day

It’s important to note this because, Though Athens was a pagan society, it’s also where many of us have gotten the majority of ideas which we use today… Read the rest of this entry »

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Government schools VERSES Private Schools: An Honest Evaluation

Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 22, 2007


I was curious as to whether anyone has seen this. It’s a 20/20 report with John Stossel on the failure of government schools and the superiority of private schools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRUMmTs0ZA

Though It’s 40 minutes long, all the commercials are edited out, and it’s well worth watching (of course, seeing that I attended a Christian School, www.dominionchristian.org, I’m a bit biased, lol). Prayerfully, everyone will enjoy……..& perhaps by the end of the video, the idea that more spending equals better schools will be demolished.Money doesn’t ALWAYS SOLVE Everythinhg…….

Hopefully, people will share their thoughts on the issue….

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Posted by Gabriel (G²) on October 20, 2007


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